Re: Homosexuality as a

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: : : Here is my two cents. : : : (First got to give my shout-outs) Howdy Bill, Steve, Martha, and anyone else that I know or who knows me. : : : How can we consider the fact that homosexuality is genetically inherited. : : : God states that homosexuality is a sin. : : : God also states that he made us and knew us in our mothers womb. : : : If both of those statements are true, then homosexuality must be a result of something that occurs after birth. Would God be justified in "making" a person a homosexual, then condemning them for that over which they have no control? : : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : : Hi Skip! Thanks for posting! Here's my two-cents worth: : : The law states that a rebellious child should be stoned. Aren't we all born rebellious? Did God make us that way? According to the reasoning above, He would have had to. Then would He not be unrighteous to command stoning? (I will not answer these questions; the point is simply a little Socratic method to test your thesis.) : : People are "made" with all kinds of problems at birth. Did God then make the problems? : : People are born in sin. Did God then make the sin? : : Regarding your statement "Would God be justified in "making" a person a homosexual, then condemning them for that...", God doesn't do either: : : God originally made us pure, but we embraced corruption. Since then, we have been born in it; after many thousands of years, the careful observer may conclude that we are born in many different varieties of it. : : God has not condemned us for our sins, rather He condemned His Son Jesus for them, so that we could have the righteousness of God ascribed to us. He did not, however, stop us from being born sinners, nor stop the continuing effect of sin on us and on our society. : : We are a product of BOTH our heredity AND our conditioning. I see this clearly in myself, and in those whom I have known well. We bear character traits that are clearly heredity, and we also bear those which are the result of childhood conditioning (and to some degree, post-childhood conditioning). The exact percentage of each cause responsible for a particular effect in our makeup (like homosexual orientation) will vary greatly, to be sure, but both clearly exist. : : Our sinful state has evolved considerably since Moses' time, I suspect. True, the root nature is the same, but the complexity and variety of the effects have translated into all kinds of inherent hereditary dysfunctions that were not yet specifically manifested nor identified in the time of the Torah, nor even yet in the apostle Paul's time. Consequently, they are not specifically addressed biblically. : : To use the Torah's commands regarding homosexuality or Paul's reference to the men of Sodom to disprove hereditary influence is just plain bad scholarship. : : (Just one more opinion; not to be taken personally. Hope that's OK!) :-) : : Well said. Smokin', actually.

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