Posted by NOMAD on May 16, 2002 at 23:37:48:
In Reply to: cutting in on Bob & John..... posted by giveawayboy on May 15, 2002 at 16:54:37:
: John: So if you are an alien, then you are an alien in all aspects of your worldview and if you are a human pretending to be an alien then your arguments must take the form of a true alien, otherwise the argument becomes a masquerade in which any anonymous party can switch motives, sides, and beliefs without any possibility of being called on it. If I was Bill, this is what would frustrate me. In fact this is partly why I have avoided these threads all together. It is far too easy for an anonymous character to wreak havoc logically or personally and conveniently disappear when someone tries to hold them to their statements.
: Bill: I mainly just felt left out with him and NOMAD going on like that. Hey, where's NOMAD?
NOMAD ENCOUNTERED INTERSTELLER GAS
NOMADS SENSORS DETECT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GAS ALSO ON THE MESSAGE BOARD
- NO OFFENSE TO BIOLOGICAL UNITS
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: Bob, the Alien: Anonymity -- Just FYI, I am not toally anonymous. At least one person on this board knows exactly who I am. I give you my word that I am not switching personas or statements. I have never posted on this board under any other guise than Bob, and I do not intend to. I maintain this persona as a point from which to discuss. ....The concept that I would avoid poignant questions via anonymity is a truly alien thought to me. Obviously not to others that you have dealt with. For this, I do apologize, and ask you to have a little more faith in me.
: Bill: Yeah.....no prawb!
: John: No offense to Bob or any of the other pseudonyms.
: Bill: do you mean the entities behind the pseudonyms?
: Bob, the Alien: None Taken.
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: John: Does anyone remember wondereal (cav okash)? This is the prime example of what i mean. This was an anonymous identity I created as a game with a few friends. But due to a simple fluke (mispelled email address) the game went awry and by the time it ended wondereal had become a pervert stalking people on this board, a malicious girlfriend from Atlanta, a gothic girl from new york, an ex boyfriend, and a very rich hacker genius. i kid you not, these were all identities people assigned to the character. All of them created out of their own fears and misinterpretations of the actual text that was sent out. Only Bill recognized the writing style and guessed that I was the creator of the character right away. BTW public kudos to Bill. He is one of the few people i know who doesn't allow his own preconceptions to cloud his understanding of people.
: Bill: Not only do I remember him but I can see how if more people had been open to it, the game could have been real elaborate. I have been interested lately in the idea of things being vehicles to greater experiences of reality. This game could have been such a vehicle--this game or something like it. Perhaps the vehicles are carrying us right now? perhaps we just need to learn how to perceive them better. Perhaps we are bourne aloft! I think awareness training is very important. Perhaps we are all teaching each other something, or being taught something by some beneficient ghost. This is what some of my friends call Coyote method. That is teaching wout others necessarily knowing they are being taught. Now, please, don't think about anything you've just read in this post. And, by the way, there will be a test!
: Bob, the Alien: I am not aware of this history. If this is a reminder of something that you perceived as negative, I do apologize. But again, can the varying reactions not be analyzed as a learning tool? Perhaps a debriefing is needed after such an event to gets its full value.
: Bill: Sure. Every reaction can be a part of the lesson. Everything is valid and interconnected.