Posted by rhino on October 05, 2002 at 15:04:30:
In Reply to: My two cents posted by Terry on October 05, 2002 at 13:52:00:
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: : all i can say is ryan hang in there..and choose to fixate on the beautiful..if you make a concientous decision to see the beautiful you will..now if you choose to focus on what isnt so grand or beautiful..you will find it..you will find lots of reasons to get caught up in that whole..i am depressed state..
: : your feelings arent the best meter to measure by what GOD is doin..and they also arent the best indicator that there is good stuff happenin..so all i can say is...learn to differentiate from your feelings and reality..as my head tells me lies constantly..the battle for the most part is in your cranium..remember that...not that i know everything..but i think that at times i can share something..and hopefully it hits home..and takes residence in the hearts of many..GOD is with us..we have nothing to fear.
: Not all depression is about feeling and not all drepression takes place in the cranium. Some depression is physical. No matter how much you choose to focus on "the beautiful" unless you get some physical help you will be depressed. (Not saying that God can not choose to heal this, but sometimes he uses doctors and meds.) When Elisha (sp) was depressed God put him to sleep, woke him up fed him, put him back to sleep woke him up and fed him again. When his physical needs were met then God reminded him that he was not alone. When Mose was depressed, God reminded him that he was not alone. He told him to pick some men to take some of the responsablity that he had been trying to handle a lone. Pastor Steve is right. We need each other. We need to name each other and call each other into being. We will only find out who we really are and who we are ment to be is by being around those who name us for who we really are. This world is out to X us (see a swifty
: Tilting Planet.) our jobs as brothers and sisters is to call each other by name and to love each other. That is what naming is all about. You are; you matter; you are loved.
: "and in your hand to give me You hold a precious stone my name engraved upon it my new name no one knows. And this Holy desire inside me grows to hear your beautiful voice... Call me by my name. Lord Jesus Call me by my name."
: I have been praying this a lot in the last few days. The enemy has a lot of names for me, "stupid, worthless, unloveable, unwanted...." And I have bought into them. I am one of those who feel, "when I'm healed then God will use me, want me, use me. For now I will just hide and try to pull myself up by my boot straps." I really believe that bull shit. If I just read my bible enough, Pray enough, have enough faith then God will..... What I am learning is that God sees me as I really am right now. Everytime he calls me by my name (that even I don't know right now) His spoken word is creating that person. He is not waiting for me to fix myself to want and need me. He is doing that right now. That is a concept so big I really don't get it. The creator of the universe loves me. He knows everything about me and he loves me anyway. The best thing about P.U. is that we try to accept people where they are at. Not where they should be. If we look to meet people where they should be instead of where they are at we will never find them and we forsake ministry.
: Well, enough babbling for now. I have a midterm on Tuesday and my job depends on me passing. No pressure. I should be studing. I will see you all tomorrow.
: Be.
Thanx terry