Posted by phunkle your friend on November 19, 2002 at 12:09:50:
In Reply to: Danger, Bill Rogers, Danger! posted by Bob - the Alien on November 16, 2002 at 18:06:25:
: Heya Bill...
: As you said, you were not complaining, and I am not responding with anything other than my reaction. It may sound like more, but its really not.
: What is really going on here? Why is this topic being held up as a primary criteria for your personal satifaction in personal relationships? I know that this topic is very important to you...it always has been for all the time i have known you. But when did a mutual interest in it become a requirement for maintaining a satisfactory relationship?
: Bill, I may be wrong here, but I think that you have this feeling that people sometimes ignore you, or don't take you seriously. I think that this feeling is nowhere near justified. You are heard on this board, and in your life, more than most people I know. But I think that your reactions to this feeling are what is really driving your thoughts right now.
: On your main point of stopping to hear what people have to offer, I think that this happens, and people do learn from each other. But when someone stops to hear you, you should not expect a fanfare. You may not even notice. People have strong effects on others lives every day. And most of the time, they don't notice.
: Bill, just look at Scott and I. You have told us both that we had an impact on your life. Both of us had the same reaction -- "Why? We were just being ourselves?"
: This is how it normally happens in life. We are aware of the wonderful things that everyone has to share, but the things that we learn from others is not necessarily the things that they are wanting to teach us. Having expectations that people will learn from you the exact things you want to teach them is probably wrong, and will ultimately lead you to frustrations such as you are expressing. With a few obvious exceptions, we are not teachers. And we are certainly not all registered to take classes from each other to learn about each other's interests. We should not expect our friends to listen to our interests as if we are.
: Bill, this all boils down to one issue for me. Can you be accepting of people who don't share your interests, and maybe even don't care about some things that are important to you? Can you accept that we are still listening, and we still care, even if this is true?
: With Love,
: Bob
: BTW, In no way should this message imply that I do not share an interest in other countries and places. I do share that interest, but it is not as high on my list as yours.
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: BTW #2, I normally put postscript notes on message with the heading of "P.S.", but on this bouard, it might look like a personal not to Steve, and not just a general note. :)
bill
i have waited to post on this because i wanted to really think..
bill your post are great. they show us stuff we might have know was out there thanks for taking the time..but this is a messageboard..sometimes we get into long strings some strings people dont comment on. but they do get read..i know this for a fact i belong to a few message boards and one message i wrote was read by 27 plus people and one person posted the board has a hoiw many read how many replied..if they replied or not they still read. on here there are post done by others with no posting and maybe will never have a post..but oh well..dude you are so frigin loved by all of us..some i know you want to know better and such is life. i know you feel trapped in your house sometimes which is true. but you also have people visit you..and crash on your floor bed couch etc i have been your friend for 15 plus years and somethings we agree upon and some we dont it dosent make you any less of a person or friend. sometimes you bore me sometimes you really move me but you always be my bill..i have years of dirt on ya..sometimes in here i am a lurker i was for at least a year. i felt intimidated by some of the stuff i read and such..i felt like a complete nerd in here. but you all were my friends non the less. i was afraid of my ideas being torched down, but i said oh..well and started posting when i moved here..keep posting my friend. even though we not reply to everything most of us still read it..have a good one...