Posted by john on August 30, 2001 at 07:14:19:
In Reply to: Re: conspiracy theory posted by kat on August 29, 2001 at 16:52:54:
: **I comeplety agree brother! That' s why I would rather perpetuate faith and belief than fear. You can hear all these things about the secret powers and the skull and bones societies and how the World Bank controls allthe major markets, get totally freaked out and say, "AH, what are we going to do?!!!" Well, there isn't that much an average person can do on his own to affect these things. There are things that will come to pass that are completly out of our control and it's supposed to happen. The only thing we are supposed to do (and this goes back to Bryons original message) is to be a light to show others the way. Yes? We start by being still, and knowing He is God our Father. And in control. What a heritage!
You know this is one of the biggest things I think Christians miss, me especially. That God doesn't need to work in the order of the world. We often think of what we should do for God and then start thinking of all the human ways to do it...we need money, a place, marketing, advertising, a hook!
God doesn't need any of this. Of course we have to be willing to work for what he shows us, but he owns everything anyway, he will effect his purposes. There are countless examples, some miraculous, some not, but to depend on either one is to limit God. Also, when we think of all these world powers and that. How many actually affect our daily lives? Very few! This is because power (on a human level) comes from the people ultimately. If we decide to operate in another paradigm and ignore the claims of others, they have no power to effect anything. (Sorry, I lapsed into a Rage Against the Machine moment)
: ** I know! It's mind boggling. I wonder if I would stand up in faith that way. In fact, I was thinking about the woman in Seatle who was standing on a bridge I think and she was up there for a few hours and people started to goad her on an they yelled at her to jump! Can you imagine? I was so disgusted, and then I thought what would I have done if I had been there? Of course I wouldn't have yelled with the rest, but would I have done anything? Tried to talk her down in front of that crowd? Yelled at the crowd and told them what perverted and evil snakes they were? I don't know. I would like to think I would have done something positive and godly. What will happen when it' s my turn to face death? What if I am to stand in front of that firing squad with my children and convictions? I hope I can honor God and not fear.
I know that I would be too weak. I have seen it in myself in even far less precarious situations. I would rationalize and ignore what I knew to do. And I am the first to jump ship when the waters get the least bit rough. (I can talk big, but I'm really trying to convince myself) I want to work on this. I have been. I am seeing improvment.
: ** True that, there is average homogenized, generic, mundane christianity all around us. Who needs that. Not a fallen, lost, hopeless generation. Not the disenfranchised youth. Not the homeless or unloved, or elderly. The inmates in prison need a real God otherwise how will their faith stand up in that environment? Let's hold each other accountable now and put our money where our mouth is.
: What next, indeed.
I'm with you there. I am not content to sit where I am.
: Oh yeah and don't forget to stockpile for the coming tribulation. You know, refusing the mark of the beast and all. : )
You know, this is totally my opinion, but I have a feeling the end will come with a gentle blowing, not a violent blast. One day a breeze will blow by and it will all be over. We'll be lucky to even recognize any of it.